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(Chapter 2 – Expanding Horizons for Educated Women)
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It seems almost like black and white women were working towards two entirely different goals.  White women were working towards recognition and forming different groups such as the YWCA.  But they were either excluding these black women, or they were being excluded by society.  It is hard to beleive that blacks were even being lynched in the 20th century.  The push for women's rights for whites seems to be taking much greater strides than for blacks because of the intense segregation.  I feel for the black women more so than white women because they were forced to go through many more difficult hardships for not only civil, but also women's rights.-afrisk
 
It seems almost like black and white women were working towards two entirely different goals.  White women were working towards recognition and forming different groups such as the YWCA.  But they were either excluding these black women, or they were being excluded by society.  It is hard to beleive that blacks were even being lynched in the 20th century.  The push for women's rights for whites seems to be taking much greater strides than for blacks because of the intense segregation.  I feel for the black women more so than white women because they were forced to go through many more difficult hardships for not only civil, but also women's rights.-afrisk
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It is interesting that while all three groups (white women, black women, and Chinese women) influenced the development of both American society as a whole and their own closer knit community, there are not many documents supporting the influences of the minority groups which can be primarily attributed to how these women felt about their roles and what they wanted out of reform more than solely based on educational attainment. The white women were still invested in how middle class women were supposed to act (writing detailed letters or diaries, basically leaving behind traces of their existence and how they lived their lives) and therefore many more documents are available for study. The black women were concerned with getting improved reform for working conditions because their new lives involved becoming economically stable, and they had learned from their mothers and relatives that women were capable and expected to contribute to the household (during slavery they worked just as hard as the men and many times worked alongside them). The Chinese women came to America in the hopes of a new start, unfortunately most of the jobs and lifestyles they found themselves in were in brothels and other forms of prostitution (these are not exactly professions that one writes about to remember fondly and therefore many records are not well kept). –jmarshal
  
 
== Judy Yung, "The Social Awakening of Chinese American Women as Reported in ''Chung Sai Yat Po'', 1900-1911" ==
 
== Judy Yung, "The Social Awakening of Chinese American Women as Reported in ''Chung Sai Yat Po'', 1900-1911" ==
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In class we spoke some of this issue that the “New Woman” faced about what to do after leaving college. Here I found what Jane Addams and Ellen Starr do very admirable, such as creating the famous Hall House. In today’s world you don’t see many women, especially white, moving into “bad” parts of cities to truly help the people there. But these women I found fearless of being in Chicago such as the incident with them leaving the side door left open and “were much pleased in the morning to find that we possessed a fine illustration of the honesty and kindliness of our new neighbors,” (pg. 36). I would have been so upset that I had risked my home and self, just being in a new place for the first night is nerve-racking, but leaving a door open would make me even more paranoid. These women were actually asked to “wash the newborn babies, and to prepare the dead for burial, to nurse the sick, and to ‘mind the children’,” (pg. 36). Where there no others to do these tasks, such as a mortician, hospital, or baby-sitters? I know to remember that these people were of the poorest of the city, but these women were asked to prepare the dead, really? Ew.---Morgan M.   
 
In class we spoke some of this issue that the “New Woman” faced about what to do after leaving college. Here I found what Jane Addams and Ellen Starr do very admirable, such as creating the famous Hall House. In today’s world you don’t see many women, especially white, moving into “bad” parts of cities to truly help the people there. But these women I found fearless of being in Chicago such as the incident with them leaving the side door left open and “were much pleased in the morning to find that we possessed a fine illustration of the honesty and kindliness of our new neighbors,” (pg. 36). I would have been so upset that I had risked my home and self, just being in a new place for the first night is nerve-racking, but leaving a door open would make me even more paranoid. These women were actually asked to “wash the newborn babies, and to prepare the dead for burial, to nurse the sick, and to ‘mind the children’,” (pg. 36). Where there no others to do these tasks, such as a mortician, hospital, or baby-sitters? I know to remember that these people were of the poorest of the city, but these women were asked to prepare the dead, really? Ew.---Morgan M.   
  
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I feel like the concept of “after college, what?” (Jane Addams, MAW p. 34) is a universal question. Albeit when Addams was speaking, there were not many other higher position opportunities available for women after college, but in today’s society most students face the same dilemma regardless of gender, race and sex. It is difficult to find professional work after graduating college and sometimes it can take years to finally find your own place in the world. From then until now not much has changed in that department. –jmarshal
 
'''Alice Hamilton explores the dangerous trades (1943)'''
 
'''Alice Hamilton explores the dangerous trades (1943)'''
  

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