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| + | I thought it was interesting how people began to cite different hypocrisies in school systems that tried to ban the Confederate Flag. Do you think school systems were right in trying to ban the flag or do you think it just caused more problems? -ABratchie | ||
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| + | We talked about this a little on Tuesday, but Coski discusses the meaning of the Confederate Flag overseas in Europe. He states "the Europeans have grasped something that Americans take for granted: the Confederate flag is fundamentally an American Flag" (293). Do you agree with his statement in that American's take the Confederate Flag for granted as an American Flag? Do you think it is an American Flag? -ABratchie | ||
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| + | The Battle Flag has been compared to many other symbols that have been perceived as intolerant, like the swastika or even symbols of black power. Are some of these more apt than others? Is there an absolute line that can be drawn between what it is comporable to and what it isn't, one rooted in history? Or is it all relative? -GStan. | ||
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| + | I thought the controversy that involved the college student named Kerrigan who hung her confederate flag out her window on campus was interesting. If she told people she did this because it reminded her of home and her heritage why did people continue to be defensive about the matter and insist her actions were inappropriate? -avanness | ||
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| + | Do defenders of the Confederate flag have a right to be able to fly the flag in public because of the first amendment? Are their rights being violated? -avanness | ||
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| + | Avanness, I think that since people are protected under the first amendment in the burning of the American Flag, that defenders of the Confederate Flag are equally protected in their flying of the flag in public. -MK | ||
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| + | I left the section about tolerance (or lack there of) for the battle flag in public schools feeling rather confused. I think that the courts generally did the right thing in protecting the rights of the minority against intimidation but there are some cases, like the middle school kid who got suspended for drawing a Confederate flag in his notebook, that seem a little ridiculous. It seems like some schools are censoring before there was really even an issue, because they think the flag is inherently racist. Which brings us to the debate of whether or not the Confederate flag is a symbol of racism or a heritage symbol… or both? I’m really not sure what I think. - Angie | ||
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| + | I found it really interesting that groups like the SCV and UDC tried to distance themselves quite far from the Klan. When they were campaigning to keep the battle flag at the Capitol in Alabama, it was their worst fear that the Klan would start campaigning for it as well because that would just prove to everyone that it really was a racial symbol. They were both campaigning for the flag to stay but for completely different reasons. - Angie | ||
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| + | Do you think the prominence of the flying of the Confederate Flag in response to the Civil Rights Movement added more the rebel image or the racist image of the Confederate Flag? -MK | ||
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| + | On page 235 Coski makes the statement"the University of Mississippi succeeded in limiting individual free speech with regulations couched in the language of safety and comfort." I understood the "safety and comfort" issue as the Universities ban of flags on sticks (229). How is this a " limiting" of first amendment rights? R.King | ||
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| + | Should we, as Coski suggests, "make peace" with the flag instead of trying to ban it? R. King | ||
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| + | As many others have already stated, it's interesting to note the hypocrisies that many of the students complained about when their schools attempted to ban confederate symbols. How does one distinguish between which symbols are acceptable and which ones are not. I'm not entirely sure it's possible without being criticized. However, I thought the identification of symbols that caused dangerous situations was a good attempted. - Victoria Y. | ||
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| + | Aside from the discussion of the confederate symbols in a college setting, how much do you think the younger kids were being spurred on by their parents political and social feelings? I have a feeling it was...a lot. - Victoria Y. | ||
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| + | How was the Confederate flag symbolized when the Supreme Court ordered the immediate and effective integration of schools in 1969? Was the flag an obstacle to integration?- Nick | ||
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| + | In 1987 the NAACP embarked on their campaign to end official use of the flag upon capitol buildings of four former Confederate states (South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, and Georgia). On page 268 Coski states that the controversies in these turned to the same basic questions that have been brought up throughout the book. Is the Confederate flag an appropriate symbol to represent the people of a modern state? What is the proper way to determine this?- Nick | ||
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| + | I'm curious to know how many times the Confederate flag won out in the legal battles that ensued from the 60's onward, compared to how often they lost. - AJ | ||
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| + | The ruling during the Melton case, declaring that the confederate flag was a cause of disorder at Brainerd High School and therefore justified to be banned was enlightening to understanding how schools and courts are capable of clamping down on the argument of first ammendment rights when it comes to symbols. - AJ | ||
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| + | I'd like to go back to Coski's earlier assertion of personal objectivity. Do you think he's made good on that promise? Or did he focus enough on the aspects of racism and hate associated with the flag in this section to convince you that that assertion wasn't necessarily the case?- DR | ||
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| + | I continued to be astonished throughout this section and in the reading from Tuesday by the extent to which this discussion has become institutionalized. Court rulings, flags flying over state capitol buildings; what does this say about our collective memory of the war?- DR | ||
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| + | Discussion topics for tomorrow. We didn’t get to the flag fad of the 1950s last time. We also didn’t talk about the flag in World War II and Korea. I plan on talking about the flag in colleges and publics schools. The marketing of the flag in modern culture. Logan T | ||
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| + | More discussion topics. The battle flag used in state flags and flown over state capital buildings. The Confederate battle flag in public areas at the local level. The confederate battle flag in historical settings. The battle flag as America’s second flag. Do you agree with the authors conclusion? Logan T | ||