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I think it is interesting that even though a lot of memorial associations were started by women people, typically men, every so often had issues with women running organizations like this in the public sphere. Even Tillet, a professor, proclaimed that he liked that women were no longer helpless like before but he still did not want to see them involved in wage labor. Did many men continue to be unhappy about women and their work in these organizations because they set them outside the domestic sphere? -Avanness | I think it is interesting that even though a lot of memorial associations were started by women people, typically men, every so often had issues with women running organizations like this in the public sphere. Even Tillet, a professor, proclaimed that he liked that women were no longer helpless like before but he still did not want to see them involved in wage labor. Did many men continue to be unhappy about women and their work in these organizations because they set them outside the domestic sphere? -Avanness | ||
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| + | Was the role of women in the memorializing of the Confederate dead an empowering one? Or was it an affirmation of their role as a domestic caretaker in a time when there was a high degree of anxiety about the maintenence of pre-war social norms? -GStan. | ||
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| + | Although women seemed to play a large role in the memorializaion of the Confederate dead, they still tried to remain subordinate to men. And in some cases, they even allowed men to play a role in the organization itself (discussed on page 189). How do you think this affected the advancement of women in the postwar society and did this limit their public role? -ABratchie | ||
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| + | The Confederate Survivors Association tried to preserve their memory, and in doing so, their histories of the Civil War "were based on a selective remembering of wartime events" (213). How do you think this "selective remembering" affected the memory of the war in the South? Also, in their reconstruction of certain events, like Sherman's march, memories shifted to make the North seem less "manly." What role do these memories play in the history of the memory of the war? -ABratchie | ||
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| + | I found the information on page 163 describing how the South reconciled about the Civil War very interesting. The author states that sectional reconciliation was based on the abandonment of the causes of the war and focused instead on the common sacrifices of the individual solider, what ever his political affiliation, what ever his cause. We have tought about this a lot in class how Civil War memory became more about remembering the sacrifices of the soldiers instead of what they fought off. Did this reconciliation bring about as the other says the death of the Confederate cause? -Nick | ||
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| + | White talks about the silence and denial of slavery as a cause of the war, is this the true "lost cause"? -- R. King | ||
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| + | How did the memorialization of the dead transition into the conservation of the southern identity? -- R. King | ||
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| + | Why is it "woman's privilege" to raise up Civil War monuments (as Evans was quoted as saying in his memorial day speech)? Why do men only lay the cornerstone for the monuments?- Aaskins | ||
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| + | Did anyone else find Evans' speech similar to Pericles' funerary oration in its description of women and their post-war roles?- Aaskins | ||
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| + | Is it odd or unexpected that women became the principal advocates for "memory preservation" in the south (as demonstrated in Augusta) through the formations of female memorial groups? - Aaskins | ||
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| + | Do you agree with Evans' assertion that southerners were forced to "divorce" themselves from the Confederate cause while still embracing the Confederate dead? Or would you take Blight's approach and argue that the image of the "noble dead" served as an outlet for the frustrations stemming from defeat? DRadtke | ||
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| + | Drew, I think I have to take Blight's side on this one. I really find it hard to believe that groups like the Klan would start up if people were able to accept that the Confederate cause was one of the past. I think we are still seeing people refusing to accept that fact, and the idea of the "noble dead" is very much alive and well. --Cash | ||
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| + | Do we see similar issues regarding the Fredericksburg City Cemetery arising shortly after the war? Was the expansion of the cemetery to include Confederate dead also an effort to "guarantee that their version of the story would outlast them and even their own families"? DRadtke | ||
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| + | No war the U.S. has taken part in since the Civil War has been as highly romanticized, or possibly even remotely romanticized, because of changing perspectives. Do you think it is because of these Memorial Day celebrations, especially the speeches that reach out to the people left behind while others went off to "win glory", had a large part in this? Or was it simply a change that occurred over time throughout the U.S.? - AJ L. | ||
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| + | "Even patriotic merchants were inclined to refuse to accept the town's notes." (pg 172) Did this mean each town had their own form of money within the Confederate States? -Megan Mc | ||
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| + | For a decent part of the reading it describes how the war was actually one for masculinity. The men went to war to protect the women, and after the war they buried the Confederate cause to take care of their women (as well as set up groups to assist widows and orphans.) It makes the women and the children sound completely helpless, didn’t some women end up liking the freedom and power they had while the men were off at war? –Megan Mc. | ||
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| + | I was not surprised that the citizens of Augusta county did not like to give economic assistance to African American citizens. Since African Americans were no longer slaves of whites, whites did not want to help out African Americans unless they acknowledged primacy of the white household.- Nick | ||
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| + | Many of us have talked in class about how the war has been over Romanized the author is of a similar opinion but is our own perceptions of war influenced by recent wars that America have fought? Romantic feelings in soldiers and charismatic figures to lead them were extremely import in 19th century warfare these influences could mean the difference between victory and defeat. The death of an important figure and the sudden reverse in fortune could send a quick shock wave of defeat in the emotions of the soldiers. Were these realities of combat what influenced the romantic remembrance of the war? Logan T | ||
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| + | What happened to the massive amount of wounded men that were crippled after the war? How were they able to take care of themselves? Why were women the first to start the memorial process instead of the veterans? Why did veterans groups take so long to take over the process? Why did the veterans groups switch from honoring the dead to preserving the chimney that remained from confederate powder works? Logan T | ||
