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&lt;div&gt;== Things the movie got right ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The producers of the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Amistad&amp;#039;&amp;#039; did get some historical facts correct, the one that stood out to me the most was the portrayal of how important Cinque was to not only his people but the Americans as well. While I would of enjoyed more translation or subtitles of everything the Mende said throughout the film, Cinque&amp;#039;s development of the English language proved pivotal. When he expressed in the courtroom, &amp;quot;get free&amp;quot; (I may have misquoted) it changed the courtroom feeling. Cinque was now clearly the leader of the group he was with and was the one who went to the Supreme Court trial. He helped the lawyers prove the case of being kidnapped from their homeland versus being &amp;quot;black ladinos.&amp;quot; I believe showing the signifcance of the translator and how Cinque interpreted American culture to be a moving point for the whole film. -Megan W.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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The constant misunderstandings created by the language and cultural barriers were very well portrayed.  Screenwriter David Franzoni wisely added humor to some of these scenes, such as when the clearly baffled linguist misinterpreted the language, and when Baldwin and Cinque echoed each other&amp;#039;s thought process without knowing it.  For the Mende, surrounded by people speaking gibberish, visual clues were all-important, but since they were also dealing with an alien culture, as often as not they could not comprehend those clues, or they misunderstood what they were seeing.  On the other hand, this visual way of perceiving the world meant that the Mende with the Bible was able to glean significant meaning from its illustrations of Jesus&amp;#039; life. (This scene was well-written, demonstrating how slaves identified with Jesus, who comforted children and protected women, was also whipped and killed, but had a mysterious power that could rescue them.)  As for the whites, they had never seen anything like the Mendes&amp;#039; traditional, hyper-masculine way of challenge and assertion of individual power---the Mende shouting, glaring, widening the eyes, and thrusting their faces close was interpreted as signs of an impending attack, instead of a means of establishing rank.  The movie&amp;#039;s representation of culture clash was strong and realistic. --- Deborah S.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The portrayal of the Martin Van Buren was very accurate. He was out purely to boost his chances at reelection and was willing to do everything in his power, including circumventing the separation of the judicial and executive branch to do so. Whether it was sending the Secretary of State to personally intervene, appointing a judge that he thought he could manipulate through his own ambition and family faith or having the case heard by the Supreme Court. I loved how Judge Colin&amp;#039;s perceived weakness of being Catholic, as perceived by Martin Van Buren and his cronies, turned out to be his greatest strength, that prevented him from ruling against the Mendi. A great scene in the movie was when Baldwin has to explain to Cinque that they have to go to the Supreme Court. For a people such as the Mendi, who don&amp;#039;t even have a word that means should, because you either do or you don&amp;#039;t, the duplicity of the American judicial system was mystifying. John Calhoun provided a very succinct description of the importance of slavery from the southern landholding classes perspective, when he told Van Buren that, &amp;quot;To destroy slavery is to destroy us as a people,&amp;quot; referring to southerners. &lt;br /&gt;
- Michael Gardner&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The language barrier, as Megan W. and Deborah mentioned, came to play again in this movie. (Thankfully there was no glade plug-in moment like in Pocahontas.) As Deborah said the scenes were written with some humor in them but one of the things that stuck out to me was the fact that Baldwin, and the others defending the Mende, assumed at first that the Mende would speak the one African language that the linguist knew (or perhaps, thought he knew). –Megan Mc.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cinque&amp;#039;s story about his voyage from Africa to America was very moving and, I thought, fairly accurate. The movie showed how he was taken abruptly from his family and life without anyone realizing it and it was Africans who captured Cinque and others to take them to the coast. The voyage on the ship was very...disgusting and shameful but according to class and the readings accurate. The treatment on the ships for the African Americans were horrible; they were shackleed up together in tight quarters, barely given any food to eat, and were dumped off the ship once the supply of food and materials started decreasing.  -Amy V.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Things the movie got wrong ==&lt;br /&gt;
I will never object to making room for Morgan Freeman in a movie; however, he could just as well have played an actual abolitionist instead of a fictional character.  Additionally, I don&amp;#039;t believe free blacks were quite so well-integrated as Theodore Joadson seemed to be.  The North was not free of racism, and Joadson was accorded much more respect and attention in the movie than seems credible for that time.  Other inaccuracies include the number of movie crewmen killed (six) compared with actual crewmen killed (two).  Also, it&amp;#039;s unlikely that Cinque could have conversed with the man who navigated the Amistad, or would have been able to read the stars.  Finally, the movie simplified the court process---but that was a good thing.  The court scenes were tedious enough as it was.  &lt;br /&gt;
In our textbook, &amp;quot;Reel History,&amp;quot; Robert Brent Toplin talks about how &amp;quot;tainted&amp;quot; the movie became because of a series of small historical inaccuracies which, added together, undermined the film&amp;#039;s integrity (69-78). &lt;br /&gt;
I don&amp;#039;t know if I would call this &amp;quot;wrong,&amp;quot; but it was certainly jarring to see John Quincy Adams deified.  The movie never explains why everyone regards him as an oracle, except that he is the son of a famous father. (This is designed to resonate with Cinque&amp;#039;s ancestor worship.)  Hopkins, who looks astonishingly like the photo of Adams, plays the old curmudgeon as a doddering relic whose mental powers are deserting him, yet Tappan, Joadson and later Baldwin believe he&amp;#039;s the only one who can win their cause. The script doesn&amp;#039;t support that conclusion, and it weakens Hopkins&amp;#039; believability.--- Deborah S.&lt;br /&gt;
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The film misleadingly characterizes the case of the Amistad as a turning point in how American&amp;#039;s view the issue of slavery by suggesting that John Quincy Adams&amp;#039; plea to abolish slavery convinced the Supreme Court to rule in favor of the Amistad slaves. Like we discussed in class, the case had no refection what-so-ever on how American&amp;#039;s view domestic slavery, nor did it set any future precedents for how domestic slaves were to be handled. The case was solely about the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade that had, by that time, been made illegal. --Erin L.&lt;br /&gt;
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In my notes I had written that Baldwin (played by Matthew McConaughey’s) was older, in his 40s or 50s. McConaughey is clearly not that old in this movie. Perhaps this was because they felt that there were too many gray/white wigged older men in the movie and more people would see the film. Another reason could be to make it a bigger struggle. With Baldwin being younger and less experienced perhaps his win in the court case would be seen as greater success. (Also, why was Anna Paquin the Spanish Queen Isabella? Could they not find a young Spanish actress?) -Megan Mc.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The movie as a primary source about the time/people who made it ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comments on the reading versus the movie ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The movie coincided well with much of the information the reading had to offer.  Although there were some fictional characters, the people discussed in the readings were represented in the movie.  The movie portrayed the emotionally daunting task Tappan, Baldwin and Joadson endured in fighting for the lives of the Mende people.  The producers effective captured the way in which John Q. Adams lost his political influence over the younger congressmen.  Another aspect of government the producers captured was the way in which laws were (and still are) manipulated to maintain minorities within an oppressive status.  The way in which Baldwin gets hit over the head simply because he represented Africans gave a sense as to how whites who supported the benefits of blacks was negatively received by many other whites.-Debbie M.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cinque&amp;#039;s seizure from his home jibes with Equiano&amp;#039;s description of kidnapping practices in general.  The brief shot of Cinque&amp;#039;s son hearing a noise, and looking back but seeing nothing, was very moving.  The boy would have had no idea what had happened to his father, and neither would Cinque&amp;#039;s wife.  For them, as for Equiano&amp;#039;s parents, it would seem as if he had vanished into thin air.  According to the statistics Dr. McClurken quoted in the lecture, such mysterious disappearances disrupted the lives of thousands of families, adding the agony of uncertainty to the grief of loss. --- Deborah S.&lt;br /&gt;
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One glaring difference between Lewis Tappan&amp;#039;s account and the movie, is the treatment of the Africans in the jail in Connecticut. In the reading Tappan states that the Africans were treated very well and were NEVER shackled once they arrived at the prison and that they were given comfortable rooms. In the movie, they were continuously threatened at gunpoint and were shackled on numerous occasions. This seems like a very unnecessary exaggeration on the part of Steven Spielberg. One phrase that was seen frequently in the Mendi&amp;#039;s letter to John Quincy Adams was, &amp;quot;give us free&amp;quot;. Cinque chanted &amp;quot;give us free&amp;quot; in a very stirring courtroom scene during the movie.- Michael Gardner&lt;br /&gt;
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What struck me in the movie versus the reading, which made no mention of these sorts of relationships, was the interactions between the Mende and other black Americans. The movie showed the first interaction between the Mende and an African American with one that was driving a carriage. The Mende referred to him as &amp;quot;chief&amp;quot; and tried to communicate with him. Cinque realized the man did not understand their language and told them he wasn&amp;#039;t a chief. He then went on to call him a &amp;quot;white man,&amp;quot; probably in order to explain that even someone who looked like them, if he was not able to communicate or acknowledge the Africans, was just as bad as the men who took them captive and held them in jail. As the movie progressed, you see Cinque and the other Mende warm up to other black Americans like the second translator and Morgan Freeman&amp;#039;s character. -Amy V.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions asked in class ==&lt;br /&gt;
Someone (I think it was Mike) asked why traders treated valuable goods (captured people) so badly.  Dr. McClurken explained that slaves were given only the minimum required to keep them alive, basically a method of keeping overhead costs low.  The movie addresses that when the prosecutor asks the British official the same question.  The British official---who was superb on the stand---said that when provisions ran low, slaves were simply dumped over the side of the ship and the manifest was amended accordingly. --- Deborah S.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;76.78.244.223: /* Comments on the reading versus the movie */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Things the movie got right ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The producers of the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Amistad&amp;#039;&amp;#039; did get some historical facts correct, the one that stood out to me the most was the portrayal of how important Cinque was to not only his people but the Americans as well. While I would of enjoyed more translation or subtitles of everything the Mende said throughout the film, Cinque&amp;#039;s development of the English language proved pivotal. When he expressed in the courtroom, &amp;quot;get free&amp;quot; (I may have misquoted) it changed the courtroom feeling. Cinque was now clearly the leader of the group he was with and was the one who went to the Supreme Court trial. He helped the lawyers prove the case of being kidnapped from their homeland versus being &amp;quot;black ladinos.&amp;quot; I believe showing the signifcance of the translator and how Cinque interpreted American culture to be a moving point for the whole film. -Megan W.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The constant misunderstandings created by the language and cultural barriers were very well portrayed.  Screenwriter David Franzoni wisely added humor to some of these scenes, such as when the clearly baffled linguist misinterpreted the language, and when Baldwin and Cinque echoed each other&amp;#039;s thought process without knowing it.  For the Mende, surrounded by people speaking gibberish, visual clues were all-important, but since they were also dealing with an alien culture, as often as not they could not comprehend those clues, or they misunderstood what they were seeing.  On the other hand, this visual way of perceiving the world meant that the Mende with the Bible was able to glean significant meaning from its illustrations of Jesus&amp;#039; life. (This scene was well-written, demonstrating how slaves identified with Jesus, who comforted children and protected women, was also whipped and killed, but had a mysterious power that could rescue them.)  As for the whites, they had never seen anything like the Mendes&amp;#039; traditional, hyper-masculine way of challenge and assertion of individual power---the Mende shouting, glaring, widening the eyes, and thrusting their faces close was interpreted as signs of an impending attack, instead of a means of establishing rank.  The movie&amp;#039;s representation of culture clash was strong and realistic. --- Deborah S.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The portrayal of the Martin Van Buren was very accurate. He was out purely to boost his chances at reelection and was willing to do everything in his power, including circumventing the separation of the judicial and executive branch to do so. Whether it was sending the Secretary of State to personally intervene, appointing a judge that he thought he could manipulate through his own ambition and family faith or having the case heard by the Supreme Court. I loved how Judge Colin&amp;#039;s perceived weakness of being Catholic, as perceived by Martin Van Buren and his cronies, turned out to be his greatest strength, that prevented him from ruling against the Mendi. A great scene in the movie was when Baldwin has to explain to Cinque that they have to go to the Supreme Court. For a people such as the Mendi, who don&amp;#039;t even have a word that means should, because you either do or you don&amp;#039;t, the duplicity of the American judicial system was mystifying. John Calhoun provided a very succinct description of the importance of slavery from the southern landholding classes perspective, when he told Van Buren that, &amp;quot;To destroy slavery is to destroy us as a people,&amp;quot; referring to southerners. &lt;br /&gt;
- Michael Gardner&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The language barrier, as Megan W. and Deborah mentioned, came to play again in this movie. (Thankfully there was no glade plug-in moment like in Pocahontas.) As Deborah said the scenes were written with some humor in them but one of the things that stuck out to me was the fact that Baldwin, and the others defending the Mende, assumed at first that the Mende would speak the one African language that the linguist knew (or perhaps, thought he knew). –Megan Mc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Things the movie got wrong ==&lt;br /&gt;
I will never object to making room for Morgan Freeman in a movie; however, he could just as well have played an actual abolitionist instead of a fictional character.  Additionally, I don&amp;#039;t believe free blacks were quite so well-integrated as Theodore Joadson seemed to be.  The North was not free of racism, and Joadson was accorded much more respect and attention in the movie than seems credible for that time.  Other inaccuracies include the number of movie crewmen killed (six) compared with actual crewmen killed (two).  Also, it&amp;#039;s unlikely that Cinque could have conversed with the man who navigated the Amistad, or would have been able to read the stars.  Finally, the movie simplified the court process---but that was a good thing.  The court scenes were tedious enough as it was.  &lt;br /&gt;
In our textbook, &amp;quot;Reel History,&amp;quot; Robert Brent Toplin talks about how &amp;quot;tainted&amp;quot; the movie became because of a series of small historical inaccuracies which, added together, undermined the film&amp;#039;s integrity (69-78). &lt;br /&gt;
I don&amp;#039;t know if I would call this &amp;quot;wrong,&amp;quot; but it was certainly jarring to see John Quincy Adams deified.  The movie never explains why everyone regards him as an oracle, except that he is the son of a famous father. (This is designed to resonate with Cinque&amp;#039;s ancestor worship.)  Hopkins, who looks astonishingly like the photo of Adams, plays the old curmudgeon as a doddering relic whose mental powers are deserting him, yet Tappan, Joadson and later Baldwin believe he&amp;#039;s the only one who can win their cause. The script doesn&amp;#039;t support that conclusion, and it weakens Hopkins&amp;#039; believability.--- Deborah S.&lt;br /&gt;
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The film misleadingly characterizes the case of the Amistad as a turning point in how American&amp;#039;s view the issue of slavery by suggesting that John Quincy Adams&amp;#039; plea to abolish slavery convinced the Supreme Court to rule in favor of the Amistad slaves. Like we discussed in class, the case had no refection what-so-ever on how American&amp;#039;s view domestic slavery, nor did it set any future precedents for how domestic slaves were to be handled. The case was solely about the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade that had, by that time, been made illegal. --Erin L.&lt;br /&gt;
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In my notes I had written that Baldwin (played by Matthew McConaughey’s) was older, in his 40s or 50s. McConaughey is clearly not that old in this movie. Perhaps this was because they felt that there were too many gray/white wigged older men in the movie and more people would see the film. Another reason could be to make it a bigger struggle. With Baldwin being younger and less experienced perhaps his win in the court case would be seen as greater success. (Also, why was Anna Paquin the Spanish Queen Isabella? Could they not find a young Spanish actress?) -Megan Mc.&lt;br /&gt;
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== The movie as a primary source about the time/people who made it ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Comments on the reading versus the movie ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The movie coincided well with much of the information the reading had to offer.  Although there were some fictional characters, the people discussed in the readings were represented in the movie.  The movie portrayed the emotionally daunting task Tappan, Baldwin and Joadson endured in fighting for the lives of the Mende people.  The producers effective captured the way in which John Q. Adams lost his political influence over the younger congressmen.  Another aspect of government the producers captured was the way in which laws were (and still are) manipulated to maintain minorities within an oppressive status.  The way in which Baldwin gets hit over the head simply because he represented Africans gave a sense as to how whites who supported the benefits of blacks was negatively received by many other whites.-Debbie M.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cinque&amp;#039;s seizure from his home jibes with Equiano&amp;#039;s description of kidnapping practices in general.  The brief shot of Cinque&amp;#039;s son hearing a noise, and looking back but seeing nothing, was very moving.  The boy would have had no idea what had happened to his father, and neither would Cinque&amp;#039;s wife.  For them, as for Equiano&amp;#039;s parents, it would seem as if he had vanished into thin air.  According to the statistics Dr. McClurken quoted in the lecture, such mysterious disappearances disrupted the lives of thousands of families, adding the agony of uncertainty to the grief of loss. --- Deborah S.&lt;br /&gt;
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One glaring difference between Lewis Tappan&amp;#039;s account and the movie, is the treatment of the Africans in the jail in Connecticut. In the reading Tappan states that the Africans were treated very well and were NEVER shackled once they arrived at the prison and that they were given comfortable rooms. In the movie, they were continuously threatened at gunpoint and were shackled on numerous occasions. This seems like a very unnecessary exaggeration on the part of Steven Spielberg. One phrase that was seen frequently in the Mendi&amp;#039;s letter to John Quincy Adams was, &amp;quot;give us free&amp;quot;. Cinque chanted &amp;quot;give us free&amp;quot; in a very stirring courtroom scene during the movie.- Michael Gardner&lt;br /&gt;
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What struck me in the movie versus the reading, which made no mention of these sorts of relationships, was the interactions between the Mende and other black Americans. The movie showed the first interaction between the Mende and an African American with one that was driving a carriage. The Mende referred to him as &amp;quot;chief&amp;quot; and tried to communicate with him. Cinque realized the man did not understand their language and told them he wasn&amp;#039;t a chief. He then went on to call him a &amp;quot;white man,&amp;quot; probably in order to explain that even someone who looked like them, if he was not able to communicate or acknowledge the Africans, was just as bad as the men who took them captive and held them in jail. As the movie progressed, you see Cinque and the other Mende warm up to other black Americans like the second translator and Morgan Freeman&amp;#039;s character. -Amy V.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions asked in class ==&lt;br /&gt;
Someone (I think it was Mike) asked why traders treated valuable goods (captured people) so badly.  Dr. McClurken explained that slaves were given only the minimum required to keep them alive, basically a method of keeping overhead costs low.  The movie addresses that when the prosecutor asks the British official the same question.  The British official---who was superb on the stand---said that when provisions ran low, slaves were simply dumped over the side of the ship and the manifest was amended accordingly. --- Deborah S.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Things the movie got right ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The producers of the &amp;#039;&amp;#039;Amistad&amp;#039;&amp;#039; did get some historical facts correct, the one that stood out to me the most was the portrayal of how important Cinque was to not only his people but the Americans as well. While I would of enjoyed more translation or subtitles of everything the Mende said throughout the film, Cinque&amp;#039;s development of the English language proved pivotal. When he expressed in the courtroom, &amp;quot;get free&amp;quot; (I may have misquoted) it changed the courtroom feeling. Cinque was now clearly the leader of the group he was with and was the one who went to the Supreme Court trial. He helped the lawyers prove the case of being kidnapped from their homeland versus being &amp;quot;black ladinos.&amp;quot; I believe showing the signifcance of the translator and how Cinque interpreted American culture to be a moving point for the whole film. -Megan W.&lt;br /&gt;
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The constant misunderstandings created by the language and cultural barriers were very well portrayed.  Screenwriter David Franzoni wisely added humor to some of these scenes, such as when the clearly baffled linguist misinterpreted the language, and when Baldwin and Cinque echoed each other&amp;#039;s thought process without knowing it.  For the Mende, surrounded by people speaking gibberish, visual clues were all-important, but since they were also dealing with an alien culture, as often as not they could not comprehend those clues, or they misunderstood what they were seeing.  On the other hand, this visual way of perceiving the world meant that the Mende with the Bible was able to glean significant meaning from its illustrations of Jesus&amp;#039; life. (This scene was well-written, demonstrating how slaves identified with Jesus, who comforted children and protected women, was also whipped and killed, but had a mysterious power that could rescue them.)  As for the whites, they had never seen anything like the Mendes&amp;#039; traditional, hyper-masculine way of challenge and assertion of individual power---the Mende shouting, glaring, widening the eyes, and thrusting their faces close was interpreted as signs of an impending attack, instead of a means of establishing rank.  The movie&amp;#039;s representation of culture clash was strong and realistic. --- Deborah S.&lt;br /&gt;
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The portrayal of the Martin Van Buren was very accurate. He was out purely to boost his chances at reelection and was willing to do everything in his power, including circumventing the separation of the judicial and executive branch to do so. Whether it was sending the Secretary of State to personally intervene, appointing a judge that he thought he could manipulate through his own ambition and family faith or having the case heard by the Supreme Court. I loved how Judge Colin&amp;#039;s perceived weakness of being Catholic, as perceived by Martin Van Buren and his cronies, turned out to be his greatest strength, that prevented him from ruling against the Mendi. A great scene in the movie was when Baldwin has to explain to Cinque that they have to go to the Supreme Court. For a people such as the Mendi, who don&amp;#039;t even have a word that means should, because you either do or you don&amp;#039;t, the duplicity of the American judicial system was mystifying. John Calhoun provided a very succinct description of the importance of slavery from the southern landholding classes perspective, when he told Van Buren that, &amp;quot;To destroy slavery is to destroy us as a people,&amp;quot; referring to southerners. &lt;br /&gt;
- Michael Gardner&lt;br /&gt;
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The language barrier, as Megan W. and Deborah mentioned, came to play again in this movie. (Thankfully there was no glade plug-in moment like in Pocahontas.) As Deborah said the scenes were written with some humor in them but one of the things that stuck out to me was the fact that Baldwin, and the others defending the Mende, assumed at first that the Mende would speak the one African language that the linguist knew (or perhaps, thought he knew). –Megan Mc.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Things the movie got wrong ==&lt;br /&gt;
I will never object to making room for Morgan Freeman in a movie; however, he could just as well have played an actual abolitionist instead of a fictional character.  Additionally, I don&amp;#039;t believe free blacks were quite so well-integrated as Theodore Joadson seemed to be.  The North was not free of racism, and Joadson was accorded much more respect and attention in the movie than seems credible for that time.  Other inaccuracies include the number of movie crewmen killed (six) compared with actual crewmen killed (two).  Also, it&amp;#039;s unlikely that Cinque could have conversed with the man who navigated the Amistad, or would have been able to read the stars.  Finally, the movie simplified the court process---but that was a good thing.  The court scenes were tedious enough as it was.  &lt;br /&gt;
In our textbook, &amp;quot;Reel History,&amp;quot; Robert Brent Toplin talks about how &amp;quot;tainted&amp;quot; the movie became because of a series of small historical inaccuracies which, added together, undermined the film&amp;#039;s integrity (69-78). &lt;br /&gt;
I don&amp;#039;t know if I would call this &amp;quot;wrong,&amp;quot; but it was certainly jarring to see John Quincy Adams deified.  The movie never explains why everyone regards him as an oracle, except that he is the son of a famous father. (This is designed to resonate with Cinque&amp;#039;s ancestor worship.)  Hopkins, who looks astonishingly like the photo of Adams, plays the old curmudgeon as a doddering relic whose mental powers are deserting him, yet Tappan, Joadson and later Baldwin believe he&amp;#039;s the only one who can win their cause. The script doesn&amp;#039;t support that conclusion, and it weakens Hopkins&amp;#039; believability.--- Deborah S.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The film misleadingly characterizes the case of the Amistad as a turning point in how American&amp;#039;s view the issue of slavery by suggesting that John Quincy Adams&amp;#039; plea to abolish slavery convinced the Supreme Court to rule in favor of the Amistad slaves. Like we discussed in class, the case had no refection what-so-ever on how American&amp;#039;s view domestic slavery, nor did it set any future precedents for how domestic slaves were to be handled. The case was solely about the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade that had, by that time, been made illegal. --Erin L.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In my notes I had written that Baldwin (played by Matthew McConaughey’s) was older, in his 40s or 50s. McConaughey is clearly not that old in this movie. Perhaps this was because they felt that there were too many gray/white wigged older men in the movie and more people would see the film. Another reason could be to make it a bigger struggle. With Baldwin being younger and less experienced perhaps his win in the court case would be seen as greater success. (Also, why was Anna Paquin the Spanish Queen Isabella? Could they not find a young Spanish actress?) -Megan Mc.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== The movie as a primary source about the time/people who made it ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Comments on the reading versus the movie ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The movie coincided well with much of the information the reading had to offer.  Although there were some fictional characters, the people discussed in the readings were represented in the movie.  The movie portrayed the emotionally daunting task Tappan, Baldwin and Joadson endured in fighting for the lives of the Mende people.  The producers effective captured the way in which John Q. Adams lost his political influence over the younger congressmen.  Another aspect of government the producers captured was the way in which laws were (and still are) manipulated to maintain minorities within an oppressive status.  The way in which Baldwin gets hit over the head simply because he represented Africans gave a sense as to how whites who supported the benefits of blacks was negatively received by many other whites.-Debbie M.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Cinque&amp;#039;s seizure from his home jibes with Equiano&amp;#039;s description of kidnapping practices in general.  The brief shot of Cinque&amp;#039;s son hearing a noise, and looking back but seeing nothing, was very moving.  The boy would have had no idea what had happened to his father, and neither would Cinque&amp;#039;s wife.  For them, as for Equiano&amp;#039;s parents, it would seem as if he had vanished into thin air.  According to the statistics Dr. McClurken quoted in the lecture, such mysterious disappearances disrupted the lives of thousands of families, adding the agony of uncertainty to the grief of loss. --- Deborah S.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
One glaring difference between Lewis Tappan&amp;#039;s account and the movie, is the treatment of the Africans in the jail in Connecticut. In the reading Tappan states that the Africans were treated very well and were NEVER shackled once they arrived at the prison and that they were given comfortable rooms. In the movie, they were continuously threatened at gunpoint and were shackled on numerous occasions. This seems like a very unnecessary exaggeration on the part of Steven Spielberg. One phrase that was seen frequently in the Mendi&amp;#039;s letter to John Quincy Adams was, &amp;quot;give us free&amp;quot;. Cinque chanted &amp;quot;give us free&amp;quot; in a very stirring courtroom scene during the movie.- Michael Gardner&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What struck me in the movie versus the reading, which made no mention these sorts of relationships, was the interactions between the Mende and other black Americans. The movie showed the first interaction between the Mende and an African American with one that was driving a carriage. The Mende referred to him as &amp;quot;chief&amp;quot; and tried to communicate with him. Cinque realized the man did not understand their language and told them he wasn&amp;#039;t a chief. He then went on to call him a &amp;quot;white man,&amp;quot; probably in order to explain that even someone who looked like them, if he was not able to communicate or acknowledge the Africans, was just as bad as the men who took them captive and held them in jail. As the movie progressed, you see Cinque and the other Mende warm up to other black Americans like the second translator and Morgan Freeman&amp;#039;s character. -Amy V.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Questions asked in class ==&lt;br /&gt;
Someone (I think it was Mike) asked why traders treated valuable goods (captured people) so badly.  Dr. McClurken explained that slaves were given only the minimum required to keep them alive, basically a method of keeping overhead costs low.  The movie addresses that when the prosecutor asks the British official the same question.  The British official---who was superb on the stand---said that when provisions ran low, slaves were simply dumped over the side of the ship and the manifest was amended accordingly. --- Deborah S.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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